Bali hit by blasts again
At least 12 people have been killed in a series of explosions on the Indonesian resort island of Bali. Many others were reported to have been injured in the blasts at Kuta beach - the area most popular with Western tourists - and at Jimbaran beach.
There is no firm word yet on what caused the blasts which happened just before 2000 local time.
more Bush and neo-con imperialism? Or just some tourists that happen not be the right flavor of Muslims?
But really, keep blamming the "West"... because they are the evil ones... with their money and power and aspirations of a better society.... who do they think they are!
LOL G , I am sure you have made a connection but i have not
the Third generation Al-qaeda are real and dangerous threat to the world , nobody is saying that everything in the world is the fault of bush
Al-qaeda existed before bush became president
my complain with Bush is that he has by his actions created more terrorists and made us less safe , that terrorism is a criminal activity not an act of war ,
Yes of course there needs to be military action , but even today we have people of a town in western Iraq saying they have been shelled for 2 days by coalition forces and that there are children burried under the rubble that they can not get to in order to rescue
what is the good news , well we have killed eight terrorists ,
two days bombardment of a town to kill just 8
it does not work G ,
how have bali reacted ?
by opening up there biggest ever police investigation to find and bring to justice those responsible
how did London react
by studied hours of video and finding and arresting those responsible
Spain , they did the same , it was a Police operation not a military one
the big US mistake is to hand over the job to the army , the army is designed to fight wars , agaisnt other countries not agaisnt un uniformed terrorists that can come from detroit or london or Baghdad or anywhere ,
Al-qaeda made clear that the idea of 9/11 was to draw americans into a war , they succeded , now there are at least 5 times as many Al-qaeda type groups as before 9/11
what does it take for you to see that it is not working G
Of course there are times when the use of Military is needed , Afghanistan is a good example
come on G , George bush sat there in his office with playing cards of enemies to tick off , he thought he could judge success by how many he captured or killed
how stupid ! , there are always a thousand Osama's and Zaqarwi's in the wing waiting
and every time we turn on the news and see more innocents being killed in Iraq , what do you think the Billions of muslims who would never hated america think ?
do you think they blame the terrorists ?
or do you think they blame the US for making the mess in the first place
do you know they are now finding terrorists in Afghanistan that have been trained in Iraq
Iraq is a big training camp to them and once they gain the experience in Iraq then they can send them off round the world creating hell
thanks for that Mr Bush
You can't simplify my argument to anti bush and nothing else
I hate these terrorists as much as you G , you just think that if your agaisnt the terrorists then you must support what we do
I hate the terorists
I hate the brain dead way US policy is trying to fight it
I want the Terrorists defeated , and i know that as long as this lot pull the strings then the terrorists will onlt get stronger
I wish you could see that
Britain 'recruited terrorists'' MP claims
AN astonishing claim that M16 recruited Muslim extremists in Britain for terror training abroad has been made by Oldham MP and former cabinet minister Michael Meacher.Mr Meacher also suggest that a British Muslim held under sentenced of death in Pakistan for beheading a US journalist is being kept alive because he was a British double agent.The Oldham West and Royton MP makes these sensational claims in an article for Asian News' sister paper, The Guardian.
The former Environment Secretary claims that Britain's 'overseas' security organisation, M16, set about recruiting UK Muslims directing them to support US efforts to overthrow communist governments in Afghanistan and Yugoslavia.
He highlights a Delhi-based research foundation that estimates anything up to 200 UK Muslims could have undergone training in overseas terrorist camps under the protection of the Pakistani secret service, the ISI, who were backing the armed Islamic insurrection against the Afghan communist regime and its Soviet backers.
He writes: "During an interview on Fox TV this summer, the former US federal prosecutor John Loftus reported that the British intelligence had used the al-Muhajiroun group..to recruit Islamist militants with British passports for the war against the Serbs in Kosovo."
The now disbanded al-Muhajiroun group held meetings in Manchester after 9/11 praising the courage of the suicide bombers and claimed to be helping UK Muslims to fight US troops in Afghanistan.
Mr Meacher also highlights the case of UK-born Muslim Omar Saeed Sheikh, sentenced to death for the murder of US journalist Daniel Pearl in 2002.
Mr Meacher writes that Sheikh has been allowed 32 appeals against his sentence, the last being adjourned "indefinitely".
He says the same Delhi foundation describes Sheikh as a British agent.Mr Meacher adds: "This is all the more remarkable when this is the same Omar Sheikh who, at the behest of General Mahmood Ahmed, head of the ISI, wired $100,000 to Mohammed Atta, the leading 9/11 hijacker, before the New York attacks, as confirmed by Dennis Lomel, director of FBI's financial crimes unit."
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you miss this one G ? a perfect example of my country behaving equally stupidly
It seems daniel pearl was beheaded by someone on the pay role from MI6
and even more that we were giving him money and he had been sending money to atta (9/11 hijacker)
so there is a real link
when will you invade ?
Todays last throws in Iraq : september 30th
Sept 30 (Reuters) - Following are security incidents reported in Iraq on Friday, Sept. 30, as of 1230 GMT.HILLA
- Police and health officials said at least 12 people were killed and 47 wounded when a car bomb ripped through a crowded market in the southern town of Hilla, 100 km (62 miles) south of Baghdad.BALAD
- The death toll from the three apparently coordinated car bomb attacks on Thursday near a busy market in the predominantly Shi'ite town of Balad, north of Baghdad, rose to 98 killed and 119 wounded, hospital director Kassim Aboud said.KIRKUK
- Gunmen attacked a motorcade carrying Housing and Reconstruction Ministry officials in the northern city of Kirkuk, 250 km (150 miles) north of Baghdad. Police said a guard was killed
If it's freedom and success 'they' hate, why aren't 'they' attacking Norway?
OPINION This is an Interesting read By Luciana Bohne from online journal.Most Americans like to believe they live in the best country in the world
. They don't. According to the United Nations Human Development Report for 2005, Norway is number one. Why? It's a welfare state.
There is a pleasant economic equality enjoyed by the Norwegian polity. No one is too poor; no one is too rich. In fact, great wealth is regarded as some sort of social disease. Third oil exporter after Saudi Arabia and Russia, Norway is tucking away a national fund of over $180 billion for when the oil runs out, guaranteeing each family the quaint sum of $22,000 per year—in addition to guaranteed health care, education, pensions, and paid maternity leaves and vacations to die for! True, a glass of beer will cost you $8, but the waiter makes a good salary.Americans like to think that terrorists attack them because they are rich, free, and number one
. Not true. They don't attack Norway—another benefit for keeping your neck out of the woods, minding your own business, taking care of your own people, and planning for tomorrow—not to mention preventing your government from being drowned in the bathtub by snake-oil salesmen posing as public servants, so it can't help when an iceberg hits a fjord, or equivalent natural disaster. Norwegians seem proud of having government on their backs! Not too heavy when they can request and obtain any government record they please for their review! They are also disgustingly healthy. Must be the lack of stress. Thirty million Americans are on anti-depressants. You wonder why.Lots of Americans like to think they have the most generous government in the world
. Again, not true. The US is the stingiest donor of foreign aid among rich nations. Current foreign development aid is up from $52.3 billion to $57 billion per year but quite short of the $100 billion needed to meet the goals of the UN Millennium Development Goals (MDG) for 2015, which pledged to reduce poverty and inequality in a Declaration of Millennium Goals signed by 175 UN member nations in 2000. Rich nations contribute 0.25 percent of their GDP (gross domestic product); the US contributes 0.1 percent. Among Ambassador John Bolton's 700 amendments to "reform" the UN, his wish list includes gutting the MDG.Americans like to think they are spreading freedom and democracy around the world
. You guessed it. Not true. The war in Iraq has cost $200 billion so far, but the Iraqi justice minister can't prosecute foreign fighters on Iraqi soil who detain and manhandle Iraqi citizens without judicial procedure. As many as 10,000 Iraqis are in detention in grossly abusive locations, of which Abu Ghraib is only the most notorious. Foreign fighters, of course, are the multinational forces, made up of an effective coalition of two—Britain and the US. Iraqi women have come under Sharia law, after 50 years of sharing legal equality with men. Think about that, as a test of spreading democracy! Iraqi farmers are required to buy seeds from corporations after five millennia of giving the world the genius of their wisdom and experimentation. Now, by virtue of Paul Bremer's Coalition Provisional Authority "intellectual property" law, included in the current Iraqi constitution, Iraqi farmers have no right to plant seeds not licensed by the state.
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No one is too poor; no one is too rich. In fact, great wealth is regarded as some sort of social disease
Read No one stand out, no one achieves anything, no one has any concept of individualism... just one big oozing blob.
They don't attack Norway—another benefit for keeping your neck out of the woods, minding your own business, taking care of your own people,
Read: God help them if there ever happens to be something they actually believe in and want to stand up for it... because this is the kind of "ostrich" politics that allowed Hitler to rip through most of Europe before Churchill stood up and said no.
The US is the stingiest donor of foreign aid among rich nations.
Read Sure, if you go off percentages, but when you actually look at numbers... no one comes even close. 1% for us is about equivalent of 60% for Norway... but then again, who's counting unless it hurts America's image. Logic here: America should give all it's money away for the greater good, that way, we can get closer to the previously mentioned "no one is too right, no one is too poor" mentality.
You guessed it. Not true. The war in Iraq has cost $200 billion so far, but the Iraqi justice minister can't prosecute foreign fighters on Iraqi soil who detain and manhandle Iraqi citizens without judicial procedure.
Read Ignore that whole decline of communism and socialism thing. Ignore the defeat of Emperial Japan, Nazi Germany, and Dictorial Italy, then the stalemate of Korea, and the halt in SE Asia (Vietnam). Ignore the falling of the Berlin Wall, and the USSR. Ignore the marginalization of Cuba. Iraq is all that matters, and the 3 years it has been goin on... because that is plenty of time to completely convert a millenia of preconceived notions and established traditions.
So, now that we have established how wonderful Norway is, did they ask how many times Norway has stopped tyrany and opression in the world? How about how much food and manpower they gave to the Tsunami or Iran earthqake victims?
How many killings in Bosnia and the Sudan have they stopped? How many African nations have they helped out? How much food and medicine do they deliver to Africa on a regular basis?
How many new technologies, medicins, procedures, treatments, and wonders have they invented, produced, and then brought to market?
It is easy to be a welfare state with the entire world shouldering the work load of progression.
Or you could say everyone is equal and happy , nobody is living on the streets , medical care is equal for all , health and quality of life is better , , funny G , we talking about norway and you sound like your describing communist russia lol
Al-qaeda is not Hitler G , and the only ones marching through countries with your army in tow is you lol
no America should not give all it has LOL , you seem a bit sensitive today G :-) , GDP is an effective means of looking at what a country can afford to give
even Iran offered you cash after katrina , what did you offer them on christmas day last year when they had the awful earth quake , answer not a cent !
I often wonder about the relgious center/right and where they stand on issues like torture and poverty etc
did god just bless america did he ?
are gods children only in the US or are we ALL gods children ?
a saying i am sure you won't like as it is socialist in its origin , but it is kept as a princible of even the most right winged of governments in the world
From each acourding to his ability
to each acourding to his needs
Africa has the greatest need
America has the greatest ability to change that need
the rich nations of the world have a moral obligation to redress the balance
as a religious man , do you think that god wanted americans to have a better quality of life then say people from the congo ? just because of where they were born ?
In military terms , asking why norway doesnt stop opresion is like asking why Americans are useless as sumo wrestling ! , they dont have the military capability to do so ,
dont tell me , everyone should support you just because you do have the power
Morals are not right
facts are not right
all the matters is might = right
From each according to his ability
to each according to his needs
No way, no how. That is exactly what that is (socialist in nature). It is the remover of all self ambition.
I will never work harder for someone else to reap the rewards. This entire mentality is a self-delusional mink sickness that led to the downfall of the Soviet Union, and almost to China (until they woke up and smelled the Capitalism).
I do not compair Norway to the Soviet Union, just point out their extreme lack of contribution to the world.
Charity does not advancement make.
While it is outstanding Norway can afford to give out so much the commie share-fest of UN world poverty fund, they have given the world nothing in the form of advancement.
We have developed the most advanced and useful technologies (and some of the dealiest unfortunately) the world has ever seen. We are on the bleeding edge of innovation... that does come from "From each acourding to his ability, to each acourding to his needs".
These things are somethign that always gets forgotten and left out when you lefties try to proclaim the wonders of socialism...
I enjoy that the hard work I do, the extra hours I put in, will mean more money in my pocket. If I so choose to give it away to charity, that is my perogative, not the Government's. I have a mind, and I like to use it... I am not a cow at pasture that needs the Government to figure it all out for me.
Now, as far as the religious right... There are too many that call themselves Christians and quickly condemn others of different faiths and convicitons.
I may feel that what someone does is wrong, but I would never presume to judge them for it. I am thankful that the power and responsibility included with that duty are not on my shoulders.
We supported Tehran quite a bit during the earthquake as I recall.
I dont think God blessed America only. I do believe that we have enjoyed a great deal of benifits in this nation. I do believe that it is an honor and privledge to be born here. I do believe that God has bless this nation, but it is neither in my knoledge, nor my comprehension as to the plans of God, or the will of God.
So for me to start babbling off at the mouth about who I think God blessed and didnt, and why is nothing but foolish speculation and opinion. Last time I checked, God didnt confide in any of us here mortals. So when you hear someone say that, or talk like that, realize that they are making assumptions about things they have no earthly idea about.
I do not pray that God is our side, or on my side. I pray that I stay on His side.
A good rule of thumb for me (taught two Sundays ago) is simply put: If you question your actions or motivations, think to pray on them. If you would be ashamed to pray for God's help in achieving them, then you know it is not the right thing to do.
I think a good deal of my fellow Christians forget these things. They get too wrapped up in the finger pointing and trying to be boastful. In doing so, the slip from the wise to the fool.
this is the age old argument in politics G
when you think of most homeless people i imagine (?) that you think of an old tramp with a wine bottle who can not be bothered to get of his backside and get a job
when i think of a homeless person i think of a veteran of world war 2 who returned to find his wife and kids had left him , and through poverty and mental illness has gone from fighting for his country to living out of trash cans
the truth is both exist and i see one and you see the other (of course i am guessing )
to each acourding to his needs does not mean give that lazy slob some money , the 'needs' are dependent on the real circumstances
take you G , you have gone and fought for your country , now if you had found out tomorrow you had something awfull like luekemia (or whatever) then in my view the state should take care of you , not charities , not the red cross
(on a little side note many people here were shocked and suprised to see people like george bush saying , please donate to the red cross , of course i am glad people did , but to see your leader telling people to donate to a non governmental charity rather then saying "hey , we got it covered" was suprising to say the least)
anyway..it is all about the definition , what are needs ? well a TV and a car are not needs , but should anyone be homeless in your country if they do not want to be ?
and from each acourding to his abilitiy , thats how income tax works , the more you earn the more you pay , and rightly so
all governements apply this logic , you have in your many posts here given me many examples of to each acourding to his needs
the sign of a sick society is when you do not apply it G
when you refuse to treat someone if he doesnt have the money to pay for it ,
we have a poverty trap here , many kids leave home as they had abusive parents , they come to london and live on the streets
they want to work , but they can not , to work they must have an address , they want a home , but they can not , to have a home you must have a job
each solution requires the other .. is that civilised , or is it there own fault that they run away from a father who is sexually abusing them ?
or is it the job of charities to step in ?
or do you expect your government to use your tax payments to help these people ?
you said "ood rule of thumb for me (taught two Sundays ago) is simply put: If you question your actions or motivations, think to pray on them. If you would be ashamed to pray for God's help in achieving them, then you know it is not the right thing to do."
and i agree complelely ,
you say nobody knows the mind of god and i agree , but i feel that many of the muslims who think they are acting in the name of god are in for quite a shock
and many of those on the christian right , who seem strangely silent when the torture of prisoners or the slaughter at Fallujah happens will also be in for a shock
I will end with your final words , why , erm well i liked them LOL
"I think a good deal of my fellow Christians forget these things. They get too wrapped up in the finger pointing and trying to be boastful. In doing so, the slip from the wise to the fool."
Rumsfeld to address reporters' safety in Iraq
WASHINGTON, Sept 29 (Reuters) - A senior Republican lawmaker won a commitment on Thursday from Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to address concerns about the increased detentions and accidental shootings by U.S. forces of reporters trying to cover the Iraq conflict. Virginia Republican Sen. John Warner, chairman of the Senate armed services committee, raised the issue at a hearing with Rumsfeld and top U.S. generals after receiving letters from Reuters and the Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) and a telephone call from Paul Steiger, CPJ chairman and managing editor of The Wall Street Journal.
"I raised the question of the safety of the press in Iraq and their ability to carry out the very important function of reporting to the American people," Warner told reporters after the hearing. "I've discussed it with the secretary. He's going to take it under immediate consideration," he said.
In a letter to Warner earlier this week, Reuters Global Managing Editor David Schlesinger referred to "a long parade of disturbing incidents whereby professional journalists have been killed, wrongfully detained, and/or illegally abused by U.S. forces in Iraq."
He urged Warner to demand that Rumsfeld address and resolve these issues "in a way that best balances the legitimate security interests of the U.S. forces in Iraq and the equally legitimate rights of journalists in conflict zones under international law."
At least 66 journalists and media workers, most of them Iraqis, have been killed covering Iraq since March 2003.
At least seven Iraqi journalists were detained this year, with at least three documented detentions lasting more than 100 days while others spanned many weeksAt least four detainees remain in U.S. custody, including three Reuters employees and one from CBS News.
Additionally, the arrests sent the message to Iraq that the U.S. commitment to democracy and human rights was not sincere.
Just out of curiosity, and purely acidemic;
Is it the US military's responsibility to protect private citizens of other nations that decide to go to Iraq on their own?
Arab journalists are running around like the Paparazzi to every scene of violence, but then we seem shocked that the armed forces might mistake them for the same insurgents that show up on the scene of every attack and ambush rescue forces.
they are protected under Third Geneva Convention, art. 4(A)(4) and Protocol I, art. 79.
International Rules About Journalists
Customs have changed since the 1949 conventions were signed. In the first half of this century, journalists were considered civilian members of military, often wore uniforms, and became prisoners of war when captured.
The first, second and third Geneva Conventions extend to war correspondents all the protections due to combatants. They were not to be treated as spies and, even though their notebooks and film could be confiscated, they did not have to respond to interrogation. If they were sick or wounded, they must receive medical treatment and, if they were captured, they must be treated humanely.
This changed with the adoption of the 1977 Protocols, which explicitly recognized journalists to be civilians and due to all the civilian protections.
Now, journalists must not be deliberately targeted, detained, or otherwise mistreated any more than any other civilian.
This means that journalists now have an obligation to differentiate themselves from combatants by not wearing uniforms or openly carrying firearms.
Journalists and human rights monitors should be given maximum access to assess the effect of war on civilians.
A degree of transparency of military operations is essential for demonstrating and enabling public understanding of compliance with humanitarian law. Journalists and human rights monitors should be allowed the greatest degree of access possible to military commanders, military information, and the battlefront, consistent with the security of military operations. . All parties must be prepared to respect the protection of war correspondents under international law, in particular their status as civilians and their entitlement to the status of prisoners of war.
It is a tough call G , I do understand your logic , however , the rules or engagement that the US and UK have signed up to means that you have to abide by this , and i am sure you know my opinion :-) , if you want any of the above to be different then rumsfield and co need to go back to the UN and re negotiate the Geneva convention
shooting a journalist in legal terms is the targetting of a civilian
I do except that it is not always easy to tell between journalist/insurgent , but thats the rules of war , and there is not at the end of the day and excuse to shoot them (accident or not) or imprison them (as is happening alot)
the only legal option is to take away their film and send them on there way
Now, journalists must not be deliberately targeted, detained, or otherwise mistreated any more than any other civilian.
What if the combatants look the same? Shouldnt the journalists do somethign different to show they are not insurgents?
Thats the problem you have G , the terrorists/insurgents , break down in to cells of no more then 6 to 8 in a team , there is no cordination between them , they are all free to behave as they wish , the army is NOT the right tool to lead the fight , the army is of course needed at times , but if a normal country this would be a police operation and the press access would be cordinated , as in bali,madrid and london , sadly Iraq has no credible police force and therefore we have this mess
The effect of US power was shown to all in the way Iraq was taken so quickly of course
but the failure of US power has been shown by not knowing how to police a country such as Iraq ,
The failure comes from the idiotic choice to sack all Iraqi Police and army at the end of the war , and amazingly it is the old Iraqi police and army that are most (90 %) of the insurgancy your fighting
would have been cheaper to let them keep there jobs , and then the US army would not have the problem have how to not keep killing journalists
US generals: Iraqi security capability has shrunk
WASHINGTON, Sept 29 (Reuters) - The number of Iraqi security battalions able to fight without help from American forces has shrunk, senior U.S. generals said on Thursday, arguing that this was not a backward step.
At a hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Gen. George Casey, top U.S. commander in Iraq, also said bringing home a substantial number of troops from Iraq next year will depend on political events there in the next 2-1/2 months.
The United States currently has 149,000 troops in Iraq. The Pentagon has said training Iraqi security forces -- who number about 192,000 -- so they are able to defend their own country is a prerequisite to an eventual withdrawal of U.S. forces.But just one of the 120 U.S.-trained Iraqi army and police battalions was able to operate without U.S. forces
Casey and Gen. John Abizaid, the top U.S. commander in the Middle East, told senators.The Pentagon said in July the number was three.
Calling this discouraging, Maine Republican Sen. Susan Collins said, "That contributes to a loss of public confidence in how the war is going and whether this strategy is the appropriate one and it's being executed properly, (and) whether or not we're making progress."
Todays last throws in Iraq for september 29th
Sept 29 (Reuters) - The following are security incidents reported in Iraq on Thursday, Sept. 29, as of 1200 GMT.
- Two people were killed and seven wounded when gunmen opened fire on a minibus in the eastern New Baghdad district of the capital, police said.BAGHDAD
- Two people were killed and one wounded when gunmen opened fire on a bakery in the southern Doura district of the capital, police said.RAMADI
- A U.S soldier was killed on Tuesday by small arms fire in Ramadi, 110 km (68 miles) west of Baghdad, the U.S. military said in a statement.*KHALIS
- The head of the city council was assassinated in this town, 70 km (45 miles) north of Baghdad, by gunmen. Police said two people with him were also wounded in the incident.* KHALIS
- A policeman and his brother were killed by gunmen in Khalis, police said.* KIRKUK
- A police colonel escaped death when a roadside bomb exploded near his convoy in Kirkuk, 250 km (150 miles) north of Baghdad, police said one of his guards was wounded.Note , this is a general overview of events upto 1200 hrs , for more details of the events today after 1200 hrs , please check my previous posts
Triple Iraq bombs kill at least 62
At least 62 people have been killed in three co-ordinated car bombs in a city near Baghdad, Iraqi police say.
The near-simultaneous blasts in Balad, 50 miles (80km) north of the capital, injured at least another 68. The suicide bombs went off in a busy vegetable market, by a bank and by a police station in the mainly Shia city, Iraqi police said. The attack came as the commander of US forces in Iraq said the next 75 days were crucial to Iraq's future.
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Abu Ghraib images 'must be shown'
A judge in New York has ruled that pictures of Iraqi inmates abused by US troops should be released. The judge made the order after a request by the American Civil Liberties Union for access to 87 unseen images. District Judge Alvin Hellerstein countered government arguments that this could fuel anti-US feelings.Pictures of Iraqi inmates being abused at Abu Ghraib jail in Baghdad last year have caused an outcry around the world. Several US soldiers have been jailed.
memri.org just reported the egyptian press has likened
GITMO to nazi death camps!!
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Five US troops killed in W Iraq
Five US soldiers have been killed by a roadside bomb in the western town of Ramadi, the US military said.
The bomb exploded as they conducted combat operations on Wednesday, a statement by the Marines said.
The Sunni town of Ramadi is a stronghold of Iraq's anti-US insurgents, who launch regular attacks against Iraqi and American troops.
Reports say 13 US service personnel have been killed in violence in Iraq in the past five days.
Reports are also coming in of three near simultaneous suicide car bombings in the city of Balad north of Baghdad.
Hospital officials quoted by Associated Press say scores of people have been killed and wounded
Full Details Here
UK: 82 year old man thrown out of conference and arrested
An 82 year old member of the british labour party was thrown out of the annual conference for shouting the word "Nonsense" as Jack Straw was making a speech about the governments policy in Iraq.
This alone would be enough but the Gentleman was then arrested under anti terrorism laws !
The gentleman has been a loyal member of the Labour party longer then Mr Blair has been alive and this is how they repay that loyalty !
Is there no boundry when it comes to shutting up dissent ?
watch the video Here
Good Heavens, has the U.K. caught a bad case of fascism from the U.S.?
LOL, couldn't have said it better my self k. ron.
Thanks for your comments guys
It seems that a terrorist is someone that disagrees !
This has now turned into a big issue over here , even TB has had to say sorry to him
the Labour party over here was built out of dissent and there are dozens of moments i can remember where the speaker has been live on TV arguing with members of the audience
The gentleman came here to get away from Nazi germany !
before tony blair starts telling us all he is defending freedom of speech in Iraq , he should be trying to defend freedom of speech not only in his own country but in his own party
lol, you guys going to start calling them Nazis now?
WTF is going on over there H? This sounds about crazy as hell.
It certainly could have been a kick in the teeth for freedom of speech G , but as these things often do , it has backfired on them , and the old man has had the pleasure of being on TV all day attacking them for stopping dissent
Tehran students attack UK embassy
Students in Tehran have thrown stones and petrol bombs at the British embassy in protest at international pressure over Iran's nuclear programme.
The protest - organised by the hardline Islamist Student Basij Organisation - started off peacefully. Protesters chanted slogans calling for a repeat of 1979 when revolutionary students stormed the US embassy and took hostages. Suddenly tomatoes, rocks and firecrackers were thrown at the embassy gate, followed by Molotov cocktails. Chants of "Nuclear energy is our legitimate right" turned more violent, with protestors shouting "marg bar ingelis" - "death to England." One protester whose forehead was cut by a police baton left bloody hand-prints on a brass plate on the embassy wall.Earlier in the day UK Foreign Secretary Jack Straw told the BBC he believed military action against Iran was inconceivable, despite US statements that every option remained open.
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Woman suicide bomber strikes Iraq
At least eight people have been killed in the first attack by a female suicide bomber during Iraq's insurgency.
Witnesses and army officers said the attacker pushed her way into a crowd at an army recruitment centre in Talafar, northern Iraq. An internet message purporting to be from the Islamist group al-Qaeda in Iraq claimed a "blessed sister" mounted the attack on its behalf. The bomber blew up a device hidden beneath her Islamic dress as she stood among job applicants, reports said. Up to 30 people were injured. One of those, Jumaa Mohammed, said from his hospital bed: "It was a young woman. She pushed her way through the crowd and then there was an explosion." A statement apparently from al-Qaeda in Iraq said: "A blessed sister... carried out a heroic attack defending her faith... May God accept our sister among the martyrs." It did not identify the bomber. The last time women are known to have been used as suicide bombers in Iraq was during the war, in April 2003, when two women, one of them pregnant, blew up their car at a coalition checkpoint, killing three soldiers.
Source : BBC
How US fuelled myth of Zarqawi the mastermind
This is a old article that seems just as accurate today from the daily Telegraph (UK) Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the terrorist leader believed to be responsible for the abduction of Kenneth Bigley, is 'more myth than man', according to American military intelligence agents in Iraq.
Several sources said the importance of Zarqawi, blamed for many of the most spectacular acts of violence in Iraq, has been exaggerated by flawed intelligence and the Bush administration's desire to find "a villain" for the post-invasion mayhem.
US military intelligence agents in Iraq have revealed a series of botched and often tawdry dealings with unreliable sources who, in the words of one source, "told us what we wanted to hear"."We were basically paying up to $10,000 a time to opportunists, criminals and chancers who passed off fiction and supposition about Zarqawi as cast-iron fact, making him out as the linchpin of just about every attack in Iraq," the agent said"Back home this stuff was gratefully received and formed the basis of policy decisions. We needed a villain, someone identifiable for the public to latch on to, and we got one."
The sprawling US intelligence community is in a state of open political warfare amid conflicting pressures from election-year politics, military combat and intelligence analysis. The Bush administration has seized on Zarqawi as the principal leader of the insurgency, mastermind of the country's worst suicide bombings and the man behind the abduction of foreign hostages. He is held up as the most tangible link to Osama bin Laden and proof of the claim that the former Iraqi regime had links to al-Qa'eda.
However, fresh intelligence emerging from around Fallujah, the rebel-held city that is at the heart of the insurgency, suggests that, despite a high degree of fragmentation, the insurgency is led and dominated not by Arab foreigners but by members of Iraq's Sunni minority.
Pentagon estimates have put the number of foreign fighters in the region of 5,000. However, one agent said: "The overwhelming sense from the information we are now getting is that the number of foreign fighters does not exceed several hundred and is perhaps as low as 200.
From the information we have gathered we have to conclude that Zarqawi is more myth than man. He isn't in the calibre of what many politicians want to believe he is."At some stage, and perhaps even now, he was almost certainly behind some of the kidnappings. But if there is a main leader of the insurgency he would be an Iraqi. The insurgency, though, is not nearly so centralised to talk of a structured leadership."Military intelligence officials complain that their reports to Washington, are largely being ignored. They accuse the Pentagon of over-reliance on electronic surveillance and aerial and satellite reconnaissance carried out for the CIA.
Read the full article Here
Todays last throws in Iraq : September 28th
Sept 28 (Reuters) - Following are security incidents reported in Iraq on Wednesday, Sept. 28, as of 1130 GMT.TAL AFAR
- At least seven people were killed and 37 wounded when a female suicide bomber attacked a large crowd of people outside an army recruiting centre in the town of Tal Afar west of Mosul, 390 km (240 miles) north of Baghdad, police said.TAJI
- Seven bodies of people who had been shot dead were found in Taji, 20 km north of Baghdad. Police said they were bound and blindfolded.BAGHDAD
- Gunmen attacked two vehicles belonging to the Jordanian embassy on the Abu Ghraib highway, west of Baghdad, as they headed to the Jordanian hospital in Falluja. There were no casualties reported, police said.BAGHDAD
- One policeman was killed by gunmen in northeastern Baghdad while heading to work, police said.
- Men wearing commando uniforms detained six people on Tuesday in the northwestern Huriya district of the capital. They were found shot dead in Baghdad's morgue, police said.BAGHDAD
- Two policemen were wounded when a roadside bomb exploded near their patrol on the Doura highway in southern Baghdad, police said.
Cartoon of the week
This is great stuff
Click the link , then follow the instructionsHere
Hehe. Great link. Thanks for the laughs :)
cant follow it at work, says "mallicious site"
Dionysus : hehehe ya it is funny
G: hmmm strange , there is nothing mallicious there at all , it is a cartoon of george bush and the stars and stripes , if you click on a star it plays a recording of different things george has said
I can imagine it would be called Mallicious if you worked at the republican party head quarters LOL
but can't imagine why your company will block this :-)
the website might be labled... our web filter is so restrictive..
The unravelling of India's Persian puzzle
Interesting read from the Indian national press
SnipBy voting against Iran in the IAEA, India has put its alliance with the United States above any concern of national interest, energy security or international law.
FOR ALL its pretensions to a permanent seat on the United Nations Security Council, India on Saturday flunked its first real test as a rising world power. Where no less than 11 countries smaller and less powerful than us — Venezuela, Algeria, Brazil, Mexico, Nigeria, Pakistan, South Africa, Sri Lanka, Tunisia, Vietnam, and Yemen — had the courage and good sense to join Russia and China in refusing to endorse the U.S.-backed agenda of confrontation with Iran, India threw in its lot with Washington and the European troika.
Read more Here
H, you seriously need to reevaluate your allegences. You are calling those countries couragous because they voted with China and Russian, but India is not because they voted with the US, UK, France, and Germany?
You think we influenced them... but you dont think China and Russian influenced the others?
You are dangerously close to falling off the "self-hate" cliff that means nothing your own nation does in its own self interestes can be good, only if they completely self sacrafice can it be a good thing.
Iran is dangerous, you have not even tried to read anything anywhere that would show you that. Instead, you have based yourself on an idealistic belief that Iran has nothing but good intentions, and China and Russia (two human rights and world unity wonders themselves) are the only two countries with enough bravery to see it.
Get real. Those two have a vested financial interest in a non-sanctioned nuclear Iran... that is why they dont support it. If Iran had made half the statements about China that it has about the "West" they would have sent the million man army in already...
I think your missing something G , I am not saying anything , the post is a snippet from the "Hindu" which is probably the most popular newspaper in India , the views are NOT mine ,
this post is to show what the people of india (the worlds largest democracy) are reading about how India supported America ,
I am not praising or condeming anyone here , I often do condem yes , and when i do i am happy to stand up and say it like it is , but these are not my words G
If you click on the link , you will see that i have just cut and pasted the next paragraph of the article
you said "You are dangerously close to falling off the "self-hate"
erm how so ? there is not a single opinion of mine above , i assume that it is the opinion of millions of indians
you said "Iran is dangerous, you have not even tried to read anything anywhere that would show you that."
sorry G , I have , i have read the IAEA reports , I have seen what Israeli intelligence has told the world , and i here what bush and blair says
not one of the above has (as yet) presented any evidence at all ,
I am no friend of Iran , I am an enemy of Bullies , that is a different thing , I have watched too many people die in Iraq over WMD that did not exist and now I could be watching the same thing with Iran
the reason that the security council can not even find a date to discuss this is purely due to there being no evidence
you say China and russia have a vested interested , and to me that depends on exactly what you mean ,
if you mean they have an interest in Iran gaining nuclear power then you are correct , but if you mean they have a vested interest in Iran gaining weapons you are very very wrong
NOBODY things Iran is on the verge of having the bomb , the question is , are they trying to ? , the urgency is not immiediate , so all i ask is present proof before we start bombing another country
a question for you .. you think i take things without question , so think about this
Iran is shia controlled
Iran is majority Shia
the Iraqi insurgancy is Sunni led
but you keep telling me that Iran is helping the insurgancy !
tell me , why would the SHIA iran help the SUNNI inusrgancy to kill and murder Iran's SHIA brothers in the south ?
come on , you have to admit it does not make sense
but have you ever questioned that ?
yes, and I have questioned why Al-Qaeda elements would now be in Iraq if they had "sworn" off helping the former Saddam regime.
My only conclusion is that most of the muslim extremists see us as the overall enemy, and Iran agrees, thus will do just about anything to undercut our plans for Iraq. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" mentality.
Now, as far as the rest of my comment, I took the un-bolded portion of your post to be your comment, sorry there.
I hear what your saying G , But Shia supplying weapons to kill Shia still just does not add up
I am slowly becoming more sceptical of what we are being told G ,
I am even begining to question certain elements about "al-qaeda" in iraq
somebody somewhere is lying to us , of that i am sure
and we are expected to believe that Iran is so evil that they are willing to supply the weapons to kill there own people
Iran supplying the Insurgancy would be like the US bombing London , it just does not add up
I can present you here with plenty of evidence that Iran and Syria are both enemys of Al-qaeda but that does not mean the US will join them in an allience does it ,
Have you read my post "return of the living dead" ? , read that (a couple of posts down) and tell me whats going on (skip the beginning , you have posted on that yourself)
tell me how zarqarwi can be doing all these things , when he clearly died in june ? how can he declare war on the Shia last week ?
I feel a bit dumb , as i have been posting his statements sicne june , and it seems clear they are ALL fakes , and the western powers for some reason want us to believe he is running the show !
There is much more I have discovered of late that i do not yet feel sure about posting ,
but there is a lot of lies being told to US by the west and i am getting increasingly concerned
H, here is my problem with most of your beliefs: You would rather support and keep faith in the idea that your country, along with mine, is operating a vast conspiracy and telling nothing but lies all in an effort to remian in a country (which effort may end up losing them power), for mysterious reasons that no one can pin down.
But you immediately reject suspicion of and have faith in people that have made open declarations of thier hate and desire for our destruction. You immediately classify Israel, the US, and the UK as "bullies", and take everything Iran, Palestine, China, and Russia say at face value.
You reject the notion of hidden motives and agendas, that may not be righteous or moral in these countries, but immedately assume those things in our countries actions.
You are always looking for the "loop hole" and the "catch" in American policy and decision making, yet will jump to the defense of a country like Iran.
You say it makes no sense for Iran Shia to kill other Shia... well, except for that whole intense hatred of Iraq ever since the Iraq/Iran war. And that the terrorist elements dont care which Allah you belive in, if you are not for them, you are against them.
You also seem to shrug off the fact the Islam, by itself, is a very fluid religion when it comes to morals, ethics, or unity. The Imams and Mullahs and other clerics are not exactly what you and I see has "holy" men. THey do not even pretend to share the trappings of conventional clergy in the Western world.
Where we find an intense scandel in the Catholic child abuse, and Pat Robertson's call for Chavez's assasination, that stuff is common practice in the Muslim world.
You are trying to apply our realities and our values to a people that are on a different level. And in doing so, are ignoring that these people, no matter how much you try to "understand" them, would behead you just as quickly as the US Marines in Bagdad.
That is why it is so hard for me to keep bying your never-ending flow conspiricy theories and "lies" from our own countries.
what conspiracy ? care to put out something that is not factual here ?
I dont take china and russia at face value , it is the US that claims that they are the good guys and Iran Etc is the bad guys , so surely it is your job to proove me wrong ?
I do not reject that other countries have their own agenda , i have said so many times on your site ,
by comparing the hatred that Iraq and Iran had for each other your missing the Huge part of history , your missing the fact that it was a SUNNI led war agaisnt Iran not a SHIA one
the SHIA in iran and iraq are the same people
claiming that Iraq is supporting the insurgancy is as dumb as me claiming that texas is at war with florida , it is crazy stuff , the last 2 presedents of Iran have made HUGE speaches stating that Al-qaeda is an evil , that it does not represent islam
I have no doubt that al-qaeda would behead me , that has nothing at all to do with Iran or syria , they do not support al-qaeda G ,
tell me again what is a lie ?
tel me what is a conspiracy ?
zaqarwi is dead G , long dead , check with all the labs around the world that have anylised the recent tapes , they ARE FAKE
you go round saying zarqarwi is blowing up children , zaqarwi is creating civil war , zarqarwi is the only reason the country is not stable
he is DEAD , long dead
you go round saying that the problem in Iraq si due to foreign fighters ....
they are NOT there G , less then 10 % of the insurgancy is foriegn
the clear view of belief in the hype is to see day after day that the facts you mentioned yesterday are prooved false today but never allowing that to change your view
you seem to forget that i supported the invasion of afghanstan , I am proud of my country and i certainly supported all recent events supported by international law
52 good solid british people died due to invading Iraq , the world is less safe now due to the stupidity
the extreme muslims are a very tiny minority G , we have been there before
at least in this country blair is sitting down with senior muslims to address why the islamics are so angry ,
as i have said to you many times , when your honest G then i respect that , if you say we are doing this for our own reasons then fair enough
but the US and British governments are telling us that this is some good fight for good moral reasons , and that is bullshit
i will not be giving a plate of bullshit by my government or yours or anyone supporting them
point out the conspiracys for me G , and we will see what is fact and what is not ?
Ps I am sure you already know G , but Zaqarwi lost his leg in 2000 ,he only has one leg , wouldnt be hide to find you think
ok H, because everyone can find soemone with a wooden leg... shoot, all they have to do is go through every bldg, rat hole, and/or vehcile, in the whole country, all at once.
US soldiers allegedly trading pictures of dead Iraqis & Afghanis for porn
America blog has looked into the claims of US soldiers trading pictures of dead Iraqis on the internetWarning the images are very Graphic .....
To see their research click Here
Al-Qaida denies aide to Zarqawi killed in Iraq
DUBAI, Sept. 27 (Xinhuanet) -- An internet statement denied on Tuesday reports that the right-hand man of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the most wanted militant in Iraq, has been killed by US forces.
the US military said Tuesday that Azzam, a financier and religious aide to Zarqawi, was killed in a joint US-Iraqi raid on his hideout in an apartment building on Monday, .
The authenticity of the statement could not be verified.
Al-Qaida in Iraq, which is linked to Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida terror network, is one of the most feared militant groups in the country and claims responsibility for many of the deadliest attacks in Iraq.
Well it was quicker then expected but no suprise that his name has been added to the living dead ,
See why this was not a suprise in the related post Here
Here are questions that are not being asked about the latest twist of a cynical war. Were explosives and a remote-control detonator found in the car of the two SAS special forces men "rescued" from prison in Basra on 19 September? If true, what were they planning to do with them? Why did the British military authorities in Iraq put out an unbelievable version of the circumstances that led up to armoured vehicles smashing down the wall of a prison?
Thanks for your comments Sofocieto
It is true that the actions of the UK forces during this event brings more questions then answers
I am sure you have looked at some of the possible answers yourself and you may have seen this
if you have not , it is an interesting read
how do you get one of those things that you can track how many people visit
Iraq : Last throws for 27th september
Sept 27 (Reuters) - Following are security incidents reported in Iraq on Tuesday, Sept. 27, as of 1200 GMT.
U.S. and Iraqi forces are battling a Sunni Arab insurgency against the Shi'ite and Kurdish-led government in Baghdad.BAGHDAD
- The second-in-command of al Qaeda in Iraq, Abu Azzam, was shot and killed by U.S.-led forces in Baghdad on Sunday, the U.S. military said on Tuesday. Abu Azzam, a financier and religious aide to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, was killed while hiding out in a high-rise apartment building in the capital, the military said.BAQUBA
- At least 10 Iraqis were killed and 28 injured when a suicide bomber attacked a large crowd of people outside a police recruiting centre in the town of Baquba 65km (40 miles) north-east of Baghdad, police said.LATIFIYA
- Iraqi police found the bodies of three Iraqis, bound and blindfolded, with gunshot wounds near the volatile town of Latifiya, just south of Baghdad, police said. The identity of the victims was not immediately clear.KIRKUK
- A roadside bomb on a police patrol killed an Iraqi civilian and injured two policemen in the northern Iraqi city of Kirkuk, police Captain Salam Zengena said.KIRKUK
- Insurgents assassinated police Major Fakhir Jalal Amin in central Kirkuk. Amin worked for the city's counter- insurgency centre, police Colonel Sarhat Qadir said.BAGHDAD
- A car bomb wounded five civilians near a restaurant in central Baghdad's Nidhal street as a convoy of foreign security contractors passed, police said
well i should be a blonde because o cant figure out how to do it!
Return of the living dead ?
Al-Qaeda's second-in-command in Iraq has been shot dead, officials say.
Abu Azzam - described as an aide to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi - was killed in a joint operation in the capital Baghdad, Iraqi and US officials said.
Iraqi Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari called the killing very important, and said those who informed on insurgents were helping to save hundreds of lives.
Of course this is good news , as long as he remains dead , alas these people have a habit of coming back from the dead at the most convenient of times.
Take Al-Qaeda's number one in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi , now he declared war on the Shi'ite on the 14th of September 2005 Reuters
which is an amazing achievement as he was killed on the 6th of july 2005 Aljazeera
, maybe he forgot and popped back to finish a few things. Number one on his zombie list seems to be the plan to move to the horn of Africa to carry on the fight after Iraq BBC
.Which will be an astonishing trip , considering that he has expired What really happened
It used to be a real life stopper being dead , but these days you can carry on and further your career and terrorist goals without a care , even today it seems our dear Zarqawi has taken over five (yes five) towns in iraq SF Chronicle
.Now how on earth has he managed that , what with being deceased. MSNBC/AP
Does anybody else feel that something does not smell right ?
Next thing they will be telling us that the Shi'ite
led Iran is supporting the Sunni
led insurgancy to help them kill their own Shi'ite
brothers in the south.
Oh , sorry , they do say that !
Todays last throws in Iraq
Sept 25 (Reuters) - Following are security incidents reported in Iraq on Saturday, Sept. 25, as of 0815 GMT.
U.S. and Iraqi forces are battling a Sunni Arab insurgency against the Shi'ite and Kurdish-led government in Baghdad.
BAGHDAD - A suicide car bomber killed 13 Iraqi police commandos and wounded 10 when he detonated his vehicle near a convoy of police special forces in eastern Baghdad, police said.
HILLA - A suicide bomber on a bicycle killed four civilians, including a woman and a child, and injured 35 when he blew himself up in a crowded market in the southern Shi'ite city of Hilla, police said.
BAGHDAD - U.S. troops clashed with militia fighters loyal to rebel Shi'ite Muslim cleric Moqtada al-Sadr in eastern Baghdad on Sunday, killing eight militiamen and wounding five, Iraqi police said.
BAGHDAD - The bodies of four Iraqis were found blindfolded and bound in the impoverished Baghdad district of Shula. Police said the victims were each shot with one bullet to the head.
THULUIYA - The U.S military said one of the militants it killed in the town of Thuluiya on Friday was Jabbar Ateyia, a member of the city council.
BAGHDAD - A dairy shop owner was killed by gunmen on his way to a mosque in western Baghdad, police said. It was not clear why the man had been targeted
Britain to pull troops from Iraq
British troops will start a major withdrawal from Iraq next May under detailed plans on military disengagement to be published next month, The Observer can reveal.
The document being drawn up by the British government and the US will be presented to the Iraqi parliament in October and will spark fresh controversy over how long British troops will stay in the country. Tony Blair hopes that, despite continuing and widespread violence in Iraq, the move will show that there is progress following the conflict of 2003.
Britain has already privately informed Japan - which also has troops in Iraq - of its plans to begin withdrawing from southern Iraq in May, a move that officials in Tokyo say would make it impossible for their own 550 soldiers to remain. Article here
H, I will have a post today on the weekend protests about it being time the US also posted an exit plan.
But, before that one comes out, check out the first post on the protests... lol, its a funny picture, but my point is still valid I think.
India claims 'no Iran vote pressure'
India denies coming under US pressure to back a resolution paving the way for Iran to be referred to the UN Security Council over its nuclear plans.
An Indian foreign ministry statement said the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) resolution was consistent with Delhi's stated position on Iran.
The statement said India's vote was in no way linked to a recent landmark India-US nuclear accord.
Officials hoped a $7bn gas pipeline deal with Iran would be unaffected.
Gaza 'what cease fire ?'
Israeli troops shoot dead three Islamic Jihad militants in Tulkarm, West Bank, in raids on those suspected of involvement in suicide attacks earlier this yearFriday
: Islamic Jihad responds with a rocket attack on Israel from Gaza
Friday: An explosion at a Hamas rally in Gaza kills 15 people. Hamas blames Israel. Israel denies any involvement. The Palestinian Authority accuses Hamas of mishandling weapons at the rallyFriday/ Saturday
: militants fire up to 40 rockets from Gaza at the Israeli town of Sderot, injuring at least five people. Hamas calls them revenge for the rally blastSaturday
: Israel launches a series of air raids in response, including one that kills two Hamas militants in a car in GazaSaturday:
Israeli troops and artillery gather on the border with northern Gaza. The borders with Gaza and the West Bank are sealedSaturday/ Sunday
: Israel launches more overnight air strikes and arrests more than 200 Palestinians in West BankQuote from Palastinian press
"What the Israeli authorities have been carrying out, and the raids they have been launching since the day before yesterday, can only be described heinous attacks... After announcing the period of calm on 9 February, the Israeli Government has proved that it is far from committed to this calm. "Quote from Israeli press
"Now that the withdrawal is complete and the border crossings have become de facto international ones, Israel must treat attacks launched from the PA like attacks from any other country - which becomes an enemy state the moment such an action happens. Assertive security dialogue with the PA is the main weapon Israel should use, without compromise or concessions. "
US / Shia clash erupts in Baghdad
Four militiamen loyal to Iraq's radical Shia cleric, Moqtada Sadr, have been killed in clashes with US forces in Baghdad overnight, Iraqi officials say. It is the first such fighting since a rebellion by supporters of the cleric ended more than a year ago. The US military confirmed it had fought "anti-Iraqi forces" in eastern Baghdad. Meanwhile, at least nine people have been killed in a bomb attack on police in Baghdad, while two died in a market bomb in Hilla, officials said.
In another attack, at least six people were killed by a bomb at a Shia mosque in Musayyib, some 60 km (40 miles) south of Baghdad, on Sunday.
Watchdog agrees Iran resolution
VIENNA, Austria (Reuters) -- The U.N. nuclear watchdog has passed a resolution requiring Iran to be reported to the Security Council over a failure to convince the agency its nuclear program was entirely peaceful.The EU resolution requires Tehran to be reported to the Security Council, but at an unspecified date
-- watering down an earlier demand from the Europeans for an immediate referral.The resolution, which diplomats said was prepared in close consultation with Washington, says there was an "absence of confidence
" that Iran's atomic program was exclusively peaceful
Huge rally against Iraq war
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Crowds opposed to the war in Iraq surged past the White House on Saturday, shouting "Peace now" in the largest anti-war protest in the nation's capital since the U.S. invasion.The rally stretched through the day and into the night, a marathon of music, speechmaking and dissent on the National Mall.Police Chief Charles H. Ramsey, noting that organizers had hoped to draw 100,000
people, said, "I think they probably hit that."
But of course i should be fair and say ...
A much smaller demonstration Saturday by military families supported administration policy in Iraq. About 150
demonstrators gathered on a corner of Pennsylvania Avenue between the Capitol and the White House.
Gaza rally blast kills 15 Palestinians
JEBALIYA, Gaza Strip -- A truck filled with masked militants and homemade weapons exploded at a Hamas rally yesterday, killing at least 15 Palestinians and wounding 80 -- including children -- bringing a grisly and terrifying end to one of the last gatherings by armed groups celebrating Israel's Gaza pullout.Witnesses said many children were among the casualties.Hamas said six militants were killed, including Jihad Shaleal, head of the group's military wing in Jebaliya. Hamas blamed Israel, but the Israeli military denied any connection. Palestinian security officials said the blast was an accident.